This is a really depressing posting to read.
"In the meantime, if you don't need ultra advanced components (EG like
TIdDNSServer), then Indy 9 is a pretty mean substitue and it is very
rarely in a non-compilable state."
When I was using 9 all I got were comments here that I should be using
10 snapshots. I downloaded that hand had to change a bunch of stuff in
apps to get them running again.
This implies I should have stuck with 9 contrary to the many pieces of
advice given here.
Am I wrong???
Jamie Dale wrote:
> Hi Steve,
>
> Well as Remy says it's not likely to happen.
>
> Don't get me wrong I wish it would however the Indy pit crew (Thats Remy and
> a few others) are unlikely to implement this.
>
> To my understanding (Remy will correct me if I'm wrong) the code is shared
> to members of the Indy pit crew from one location - IE the server, and they
> work on it remotely.. or lock it, download it, work on it, upload and unlock
> it. Now unfortunately, to change that would undoubtedly mean a MAJOR change
> in the way the team does things (I think..).
>
> There's also a 2nd reason why this hasn't been done from my side of things.
> Although I'm one of 5 or 6 webmasters (and probably the only slightly active
> one) our hands are tied. The software which is used for the site (also
> created by the same people from my understanding), doesn't give us the
> ability to manage the actual download files (EG the .zip files) because they
> are stored on seperate servers. We only have access to the actual web pages,
> templates, directories etc. I have no ability to manage the downloadable
> files. That is down to the indy pit crew and so while I do agree with your
> idea of having a monthly stable download, I can not implement it myself. I'm
> reluctant to push this issue with Remy or Chad (The creator of Indy in it's
> early days) as these are VERY busy people and they maintain and work on Indy
> free as volunteers (I think it's actually more of a hobby though I'm sure
> Remy will never admit it!). They are also professional programmers who have
> many other projects on the go and other clients to keep happy. Indy is very
> high quality source for anyone to use and is cross platform with no
> dependancies to rely on. A project the size of Indy can't be easy to
> maintain, update, and still meet it's key objectives of being free and cross
> platform. I admit it's very frustrating but the Indy guys have their tried
> and tested way of working and so far, somehow, they've managed to keep the
> project going all these years using it!
>
> It might be a possibility for me to download it once a month, upload it to
> the site (or another server) and then link to that from the indy website.
> This would also bring about it's problems though as the Indy crew would need
> to let me know when each update is stable and then I'd need to grab it at
> the very same time. With time differences between countries, I might not
> grab it until 24 hrs later. I've never put this forward to the pit crew for
> the main reason I don't think they'd like the idea. It would basically be
> the same as publishing a stable version - something which they've been set
> against all along.
>
> I will speak to Chad about this at some point on Skype but for the
> forseeable future, I don't see this being changed.
>
> In the meantime, if you don't need ultra advanced components (EG like
> TIdDNSServer), then Indy 9 is a pretty mean substitue and it is very rarely
> in a non-compilable state. It's basically a finished product which they no
> longer work on except for the od bug fix which occassionally crops up. I use
> it, and it's certainly one up from version 8 ;)
>
> Regards,
>
> Jamie
>
> PS, I also have Indy 10 from a download of about 2 months ago. It compiled
> without any errors - If you want it, let me know.
>
> "Remy Lebeau (TeamB)" <no.spam@no.spam.com> wrote in message
> news:47310d87@newsgroups.borland.com...
>> "Steve Maughan" <GoogleMe@www.com> wrote in message
>> news:4731040e@newsgroups.borland.com...
>>
>>> How about having a stable monthly download
>> That's not likely to happen anytime soon.
>>
>>> once a month grab a version that compiles and seesm
>>> reasonably stable
>> The code is not stable enough that often to warrant that. And especially
>> with the new version of the IDE coming out next year with native Unicode
>> support throughout the VCL and RTL, there is a lot of code in Indy that is
>> likely to change over the next year to prepare for that.
>>
>>
>> Gambit
